
25
Jan
2009
Posted by Mihaela Lica as Featured
Too beautiful to last – this is how we could characterize Twitter’s ad free platform. The sad news is that it’s not Twitter destroying the dream – other companies come to invade a space where so many people used to communicate undisturbed about all that’s new and fun under the sun.
If ads would come from Twitter I could understand. Actually, I believe that every Twitter user would understand and tolerate the obvious: Twitter offers a great service, but are they making money with it? The answer is no: no to the making money, and no to the intent of inserting ads on Twitter.com.
If Twitter doesn’t insert ads it must be for a reason, or for a thousand reasons – but finding out why is not the purpose of this article. I leave the debate to others, more experienced at dissecting the financial implications of launching a service without a business model.
The discussion today will focus on Magpie. Aside the “long-tailed black-and-white crow that utters a raucous chattering call” meaning of the word, Princeton gives another definition: “an obnoxious and foolish and loquacious talker.” This is what Magpie wants you to become, and they are not even subtle in their mission.
With an “in your face” approach to business, Magpie chatters loudly: “be a magpie! Convert your tweets into bling-bling.” At this point I think Magpie deserves more to be called “Maggot” and I could name a million reasons why this is a more appropriate name.

“Make money with Twitter” type of services was to be expected, and they’ll multiply like rabbits as Twitter will continue to gain momentum. As hard as I try thought and searched, I couldn’t find anything worse or scarier than Magpie. Any committed Twitter user will see my point by just looking at the Magpie site, but for the others who might consider using Magpie to “monetize” their Twitter accounts, here’s what they should consider.
It took a long time for the community to accept paid blogging like Sponsored Reviews and PayPerPost. Even now “make money blogging” is not totally accepted by the community and the debate goes on. Selling ad space on a personal blog is a matter of personal choice – and because the blog is a private asset whatever you get paid to do with it is in the end of little importance. If they don’t like it the visitors would eventually stop visiting the blog in case.
But “monetizing” an account that is part of a public network where every action might impact the community, well, that’s a different story. “Making money with Twitter” is not an issue opened to abuse.
Twitter users like Twitter for these very reasons: it’s an ad free platform, it makes a great tool to communicate real-time news and real-time life streaming, and it makes a great social network – adding value to dialogue between people with similar interests, and so on. Any deviations from these reasons would eventually generate an aggressive reaction from the users.
Magpie’s business model is not viable on Twitter – it looks too much like spam, actually it is spam. Magpie twitts take away from the authenticity of the message, they “invade” the Twitter boxes of the “followers” with unsolicited messages.
If email spam had a definition (unsolicited bulk email messages), the definition for Twitter spam is not that much different. Many marketers try to sell their products by posting on Twitter, many giant corporations already have a Twitter presence, but instead of ads, these chose to actually communicate with their followers. Dialogue is the best form of advertising I guess. The Web is already saturated by ads of Magpie type – this is not adding value to the Twitter network, it’s bashing it. Twitter is about conversation, not about noise, soapboxing crap and spamming the network with random junk. Twitter is just not the place for such marketing campaigns, and I can only hope that none of my clients would ever consider it, for I will terminate the contract with that client on the spot. I will not have my name associated with any type of spam.
I found the best description of why Magpie is a bad idea on Sociosophy. And the same site does a great job at explaining who would use this service:
- Someone who doesn’t understand Twitter at all
- Someone who doesn’t understand Social Media at all
- Someone who has no problem using their friends for revenue
- Someone who doesn’t mind watching their Twitter follower count drop like Brits during the Black Plague
I cannot go on writing about this service – I am already annoyed and I don’t want to say things I would later regret. But I will use the ending found at Sociosophy, it summarizes perfectly my feelings:
Congratulations to the creators of this and other services like this… Turn your creativity into something that harnesses Web 2.0 and the Social Realm positively instead of filling it with this Web 1.0 mentality and muck.
12 Responses
Lucretia Pruitt
January 25th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
1I’m a huge opponent of Magpie’s model… mostly because of the “hidden” issue of volume. There’s no control on the viewer’s end.
I follow & am followed by around 8k people right now – nothing compared to folks like @ChrisBrogan @Scobleizer @GuyKawasaki – now think if just 5% of the people I read used magpie… That’s 400. Imagine what happens when they all broadcast the same ad. Can you see going thru 400 “buy this crap” ads at one time before I get to a real tweet? I’d quit twitter.
I wrote about it here a couple of months ago http://geekmommy.net/2008/11/19/tweet-like-a-nightingale-not-like-a-magpie/ – look at the founders comments in the thread, he got defensive and angry, but never denied that’s what it would do.
Lucretia Pruitt’s last blog post..How I Learned to Stand Up for Myself and to Say No, Too.
James
January 27th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
2This is the exact reason why I built http://www.twittad.com. When I first heard of Twitter about a year ago, the first thought I had was doing the background ad placement. Ads in Tweets is something that can and will ruin Twitter on a larger scale.
We continue to receive positive feedback from advertisers and Twitter users on our model. We are now continuing our service by developing a way for Twitter users to opt-in to campaigns that advertisers place. Stay tuned to our blog http://www.twittad.com/blog for more details.
On another note, ads in tweets model’s do current provide one thing for advertisers and that is analytics (or # of clicks for the $ spent) In our model, we have 2 ads in tweets; 1 that goes out at the beginning of the campaign and 1 that goes out at the end of the campaign. If we can get some page views, or clickable space on Twitter.com to serve the ads. You will see us drop the ads in tweets immediately.
Regards,
James Eliason
Founder/CEO Twittad.com
Mihaela Lica
January 28th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
3Thank you for the link to your review, Lucretia. We really need to raise awareness about these issues – I am afraid that twitter will be turned into a crappy place for ads and the like and I just started to like it… I hope Magpie type of services will not succeed, or this will really mean the end of twitter.
Mihaela Lica
January 28th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
4James, you really don’t want me to review your startup. I was aware of its existence, but I didn’t name it here because I do not consider it as low class as Magpie. Still, my first statement stays: if someone does put ads on twitter, then let it be twitter themselves.
I will give you a free PR advice now: NEVER comment on a blog post that promotes/ hammers your competitors. It makes you look desperate for attention, which raises serious questions about your business.
Twittonary
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:19 am
5Its funny because that seems to be one of the main topics I get sent emails about.. “how do I make money on twitter”. I think people have lost focus of what social networking is in that case. Its really about building foundations and making connection which in turn can present you with new customers or clients. Making a few cents here and there from a service just cannot make up for the connections and relationships built.
Chelle
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:35 am
6It is hard to say why Twitter does not take action against sites like Magpie, but I think they probably should. Otherwise it could potentially get so bad it will just be mostly spammers spamming each other, kinda how myspace and facebook are now these days.
Chelle’s last blog post..How Do You Spend Your Time Prospecting and Marketing?
Wilson Pon
February 4th, 2009 at 8:23 am
7Well, it might seem hard for Magpie for destroy Twitter, at least in this few years…However, if Twitter lets the spammers keep spamming all around the network, then it’s about time to say, “Ta ta” for sure, Mig.
Tamal Anwar
February 5th, 2009 at 4:17 am
8Hello Mihaela, I stumble upon on this post and I see you’ve put a strong message against Magpie. Magpie is the PayPerPost of twitter and it has to come some day. Paid per post market places are annoying for lots of people and the big names are against it too! But the fact is, it’s now okay for a mass audience because the majority of big blogger revenue comes from them.
Talking about magpie, I thing the concept they bring in is the most revolutionary monetization method for twitte and. It gives the equal chance to both twitterer and the advertiser.
Twitter’s not doing anything about it because twitter wants money just like every company wants. Someday twitter will come with their hidden monetization method and that may annoy you a lot… should you quit twitter then? off course not!
Everyone is loving twitter money making concepts like TwittAd, Magpie, TheBranch and a lot of them I shared on this post: http://blogkori.com/a-step-by-step-guide-for-new-twitter-users-last-part
The thing we can learn here is that, if advertisers are so much disparate, placing ads in our tweets, then why shouldn’t we use twitter for our blogs?
Tamal Anwar’s last blog post..“A” for Articles, not Adsense in blogging
Nicole R.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
9One of the great things about Twitter- the unfollow feature. I unfollow people once I realize they participate in this type of stuff. I know I’m not the only one who does this, so I don’t even understand how Magpie stands to grow. They’re like online ‘telemarketing’ firm and I don’t need the nonsense clogging up myfeed.
Frank Carr
February 8th, 2009 at 1:38 am
10While I don’t have any problem with using the Internet for marketing, using someone else’s free service to make money uninvited is kind of low. Maybe the Magpie folks are hoping for Twitter to buy them out with some of their VC money. Who knows?
My observation of Twitter so far is that it’s mostly a place for people to post inane personal information and cloaked affiliate links. No, I don’t care what your dog had for breakfast and No, I’m not going to join this great new marketing membership site you ‘just found.’
Frank Carr’s last blog post..Earn Online Cash with a Niche Adsense Blog
Enrique Gutierrez
February 14th, 2009 at 12:27 am
11Thanks for including us in your post! I sincerely can’t stand magpie & my timeline is free from those that use it.
I’d hope everyone would do the same.
Lisa
April 28th, 2009 at 7:00 am
12hmmm before and right after I read your article I was presented with adsense monetization on this blog. That’s OK though, we all need to use our real estate wisely. I don’t know if magpie will make it, but I do know that we all need to understand what value is worth. It is worth different things to different people. I don’t where we got the idea that sharing information should be free in this world. I do know some insightful blog posts that are written, this post above did get me to this site, so I would infer from this that you have your site optimized for traffic well. That had to come at a price I would assume. So maybe we think magpie is repulsive to a twitter community. but we should just insist that twitter give us the opportunity to “block” magpie if we choose. If a user sends us a tweet with magpie, and we find that distasteful, block the user and dm him/her saying, “hey, magpie or your ads are distasteful, now I’m blocking you.” Isn’t that easy? Anyone in here know how to turn off the adsense on this blog. Not even relevant to this discussion.
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