Comments on: SEO for Flash Websites http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/ Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:02:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Fyurien (^Justin) http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-5481 Fyurien (^Justin) Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:24:55 +0000 http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-5481 Hi (again) =P, I wasnt exactly sure where to post this, and since I couldnt find a contact email, I thought I would post it here. I was hoping (if you have time) that you might review a new site I started. Its pretty small and simple, so it shouldnt take too long hopefully. This time I really want to try and put all the SEO in that I can. I've done some reading but I still have quite a bit to learn. So any suggestions would be very welcomed. Ciao PS: Doesnt hurt to link the site =) http://privesteromania.blogspot.com/ Hi (again) =P,

I wasnt exactly sure where to post this, and since I couldnt find a contact email, I thought I would post it here. I was hoping (if you have time) that you might review a new site I started. Its pretty small and simple, so it shouldnt take too long hopefully. This time I really want to try and put all the SEO in that I can. I’ve done some reading but I still have quite a bit to learn.

So any suggestions would be very welcomed.

Ciao

PS: Doesnt hurt to link the site =)
http://privesteromania.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Justin http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-3061 Justin Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:04:57 +0000 http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-3061 Hey, thank you very much for all the great suggestions. You seem so good at this I should just give you the contract =P. I'll take everything you said into consideration, and if time permits incorporate it into the final layout. Thanks again =). Hey, thank you very much for all the great suggestions. You seem so good at this I should just give you the contract =P. I’ll take everything you said into consideration, and if time permits incorporate it into the final layout. Thanks again =).

]]> By: Mihaela Lica http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2986 Mihaela Lica Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:16:14 +0000 http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2986 Sorry for not answering sooner, Justin. I didn't have time to look at the page till now. The new code looks much better - you should also validate it. Right now it has <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aubreygroup.com%2Faboutus.htm" rel="nofollow">12 small errors</a>. Then place the CSS in a different folder and load it in the header with this command: < link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="layout.css" / > to push the content of the site higher. The search engines read the code from left to right and up to down. So it is better to have the page content as high in the code as possible. It would really be better if you try a tableless design, but if you have only a 20 hours contract it is not worth the trouble. "Supplemental" means that Google will no longer index those pages in the main index but in the "omitted" results index. And they are not going to show for a normal search querry. The meta titles and descriptions... we'll have to think about them when you are ready with the whole site. Each title and description should be relevant for the content of the page. Sorry for not answering sooner, Justin. I didn’t have time to look at the page till now. The new code looks much better - you should also validate it. Right now it has 12 small errors. Then place the CSS in a different folder and load it in the header with this command: < link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"
href="layout.css" / > to push the content of the site higher. The search engines read the code from left to right and up to down. So it is better to have the page content as high in the code as possible.
It would really be better if you try a tableless design, but if you have only a 20 hours contract it is not worth the trouble.
“Supplemental” means that Google will no longer index those pages in the main index but in the “omitted” results index. And they are not going to show for a normal search querry.
The meta titles and descriptions… we’ll have to think about them when you are ready with the whole site. Each title and description should be relevant for the content of the page.

]]> By: Justin http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2929 Justin Fri, 23 Mar 2007 03:36:04 +0000 http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2929 Thanks for the good advice. I did all my prep work and have already finished changing out their first four pages. By the way, what did you mean by supplemental? Any suggestions on proper meta descriptions? They seem to have just flooded the hell out of each page with stuff they must have thought was important. I left it the same not wanting to make any drastic changes yet. Plus this is only a 20 hour contract, so not much time for a major overhaul. =( Anyway, here is one of the new pages http://www.aubreygroup.com/aboutus.htm Let me know if the source seems better formated. I'm quite new at this, but am really enjoying it. As is, this is my first real contract. =) Thanks for the good advice. I did all my prep work and have already finished changing out their first four pages. By the way, what did you mean by supplemental?

Any suggestions on proper meta descriptions? They seem to have just flooded the hell out of each page with stuff they must have thought was important. I left it the same not wanting to make any drastic changes yet. Plus this is only a 20 hour contract, so not much time for a major overhaul. =(

Anyway, here is one of the new pages http://www.aubreygroup.com/aboutus.htm

Let me know if the source seems better formated. I’m quite new at this, but am really enjoying it. As is, this is my first real contract. =)

]]> By: Mihaela Lica http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2913 Mihaela Lica Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:44:56 +0000 http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2913 The page rank doesn't come from the hidden text, but from the age of the domain and from being linked from an edu site and another authority site. Their meta tags are really bad and those pages are going to go supplemental (eventually). The copyright is outdated too... it will probably cause them problems (if a scraper site decides to get their contents). But the hidden text... that's really going to get them banned out of Google. And then they'll come back crawling to you to help them rank again. They really have it on each page! You should really fix their meta tags and get them more links. The rankings don't mean anything if they don't bring traffic. Some better page texts and proper meta descriptions will do wonders. The page rank doesn’t come from the hidden text, but from the age of the domain and from being linked from an edu site and another authority site.
Their meta tags are really bad and those pages are going to go supplemental (eventually). The copyright is outdated too… it will probably cause them problems (if a scraper site decides to get their contents). But the hidden text… that’s really going to get them banned out of Google. And then they’ll come back crawling to you to help them rank again. They really have it on each page!
You should really fix their meta tags and get them more links. The rankings don’t mean anything if they don’t bring traffic. Some better page texts and proper meta descriptions will do wonders.

]]> By: Justin http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2912 Justin Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:31:11 +0000 http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2912 Well I've managed to convince this client to get rid of flash, but now we've a different problem. They had some time ago decided to use Black Hat SEO and burry some text at the bottom of their website with the same color as the set background color. I've been given the full contract and have started working on the site. Yet, once I realized this I told them I would remove this as its not something Google appreciates too much. =) Anyway, they are set on keeping it (which is fine with me), but I'm not sure its such a good idea. I've done enough studying of SEO to know its best to avoid that. Well out of curiosity I checked their Page Rank and they are up to 4/10. Pretty good for a site that is apparently not following SEO rules. The site is www.aubreygroup.com In your opinion can this sort of SEO really hurt your ranking with Google, or is it just superstition. If it doesn't hurt, I'll keep it. Any thoughts on this? How do you persuade so persuasively? =D Well I’ve managed to convince this client to get rid of flash, but now we’ve a different problem. They had some time ago decided to use Black Hat SEO and burry some text at the bottom of their website with the same color as the set background color. I’ve been given the full contract and have started working on the site. Yet, once I realized this I told them I would remove this as its not something Google appreciates too much. =) Anyway, they are set on keeping it (which is fine with me), but I’m not sure its such a good idea. I’ve done enough studying of SEO to know its best to avoid that. Well out of curiosity I checked their Page Rank and they are up to 4/10. Pretty good for a site that is apparently not following SEO rules. The site is http://www.aubreygroup.com

In your opinion can this sort of SEO really hurt your ranking with Google, or is it just superstition. If it doesn’t hurt, I’ll keep it. Any thoughts on this? How do you persuade so persuasively? =D

]]> By: Mihaela Lica http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2887 Mihaela Lica Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:40:32 +0000 http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2887 That's funny... I didn't know about problems with IE, but this is another reason to "handle flash with care". I know it's hard to convince clients to avoid flash. I have the same problems :) ... But I am very persuasive... That’s funny… I didn’t know about problems with IE, but this is another reason to “handle flash with care”.
I know it’s hard to convince clients to avoid flash. I have the same problems :) … But I am very persuasive…

]]> By: Justin http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2886 Justin Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:39:26 +0000 http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2886 Nice to meet you too. =) Well that letter was really just meant for one person. =). She read it, she replied and now its been removed. Sorry! For some reason I think it too was lost in translation. But thats another story. =) I am finding that working on cleaning up websites is alot more work than I had imagined. Whats worse is trying to explain to customer why using flash really does sort of kill your SEO. Though your advice would certainly help. And for some reason IE7 is not playing nice with flash. Someone explained ot me once why the new version is acting this way, but dont remember exactly what was the reason. Firefox is my new good friend. =) Nice to meet you too. =)

Well that letter was really just meant for one person. =). She read it, she replied and now its been removed. Sorry! For some reason I think it too was lost in translation. But thats another story. =)

I am finding that working on cleaning up websites is alot more work than I had imagined. Whats worse is trying to explain to customer why using flash really does sort of kill your SEO. Though your advice would certainly help. And for some reason IE7 is not playing nice with flash. Someone explained ot me once why the new version is acting this way, but dont remember exactly what was the reason. Firefox is my new good friend. =)

]]> By: Mihaela Lica http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2872 Mihaela Lica Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:40:25 +0000 http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2872 Hello, Justin. Pleased to read your comment, but above all... pleased to read the "Letter to Romania" on your blog. :) One day you'll find my comments there. Hello, Justin. Pleased to read your comment, but above all… pleased to read the “Letter to Romania” on your blog. :) One day you’ll find my comments there.

]]> By: Justin http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2864 Justin Wed, 21 Mar 2007 00:05:08 +0000 http://www.ewriting.pamil-visions.com/2007/03/19/flash-seo/#comment-2864 Its amazing what you find by following links after links. Voila, here I am =). I am actually just now converting a flash website into html. The flash was horrible, so no points for style. But the last author was creative enough to hide two paragarphs worth of text at the bottom of the page. Tricky SOE stuff, or quick way to never find your site on Google again? The rest of the site is just a mess. Bad html is no fun to clean up. =) Good advice btw. Its amazing what you find by following links after links. Voila, here I am =).

I am actually just now converting a flash website into html. The flash was horrible, so no points for style. But the last author was creative enough to hide two paragarphs worth of text at the bottom of the page. Tricky SOE stuff, or quick way to never find your site on Google again? The rest of the site is just a mess. Bad html is no fun to clean up. =)

Good advice btw.

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